Monday, February 27, 2012

Honourable Dobermann Klub?

 CLUBS  HDK 


Famous conversation from history:


Attila the Hun: Trickery and deceit. That is the way of the Romans, not of us.
Flavius Aetius: Yes, but which way rules the world?  


This could have been easily the factual exchange between Tamas (HDK) and Thomas (DV) one Saturday morning on the day of the World's biggest Dobermann event in 2011..  When the Hungarian descendants of the "Whip of God" met his Teutonic "Lord Nibelung’s" desire to chase and remove his barbaric rivals from the southern lands. Szerr..b...vusz... Serbian and other Balkan folks. For sure it must have been something like that...but not: az elnök chose wisely to kneel aside just like any other bad shepherd facing the ever starving northern wolves.. Instead, it was to step aside from something more like a bunch of monkeys in this case.

After the initial Teutonic howling by Be(ch)ta-male the list of prey was distributed among the judges and no matter how daunting that task might have seemed.. they went on the hunt with greatest diligence and enthusiasm. Mr. Friedrich and Mr. Daube were constantly circling around the rings like Wolves and inbetween the fences for a thorough check up of the JR (Jüdischen Rasse could it be?) tell-tale signs of unwanted Szerbian dogs while one Thomas Becht, Herr Wiblishauser, Dottie Pezzano, Something Afrikaan and others started eliminating ghetto style...and with great joy!

We are not claiming all Serbian breeders are 100%  true but it really makes no sense to accept their entries, payments and then to decline them on the spot. This is just pure Hypocrisy! Much like what happened in these lands 70 years ago... by another German /Italian alliance..




Meanwhile, everyone of the sheep were just minding their own business. No one was delighted, but hardly anyone was protesting either. Can’t blame them, can we?  It’s a tough game this in this dog show circus. Most are looking for that Holy Grail, delivered by the hands of false prophets. It’s quite expensive too, some pay in hard cash while the others are willing to sell it all - their face, (good)name, spine, body and of course – their heart&soul.

But all was not lost... We were all privileged to see another performance.. this time by a self proclaimed  high (hmm, just how high?) and pretty (to some at least) Serbian breeder. Now that’s what I call a genuine coolness - the guy was floating around with his recognizable charm and almost sarcastic smile, feeling very confident and self assured, even when his peoples suffer.. Not even minding his seven dogs being already disqualified for he had one mission only - and that was to become the Lord of the Rings. I guess Frodo would eat his heart out for that one but then again - Frodo lives not in Hungary anyway. Or does he?

Alas “the winds of change” induced by old farts proved him wrong once again by handing the cup to one of their own musketeers...so the muscle girl with Austrian name (granpa could have made it) took the cup in greatest joy... as if like she and everyone did not expect it....

This was of course a clear case of Pezzano-driven strategy – they let this Serbian dog pass to the very Maximum and then at very last moment – they simply diverted the cup to someone else, playing on peoples feelings and supportive while cheering for at least one Serbian dog to win...
I think that Serbian breeder is still licking his wounds. It was quie painful to watch, let alone to experience.  Otherwise zero self-respect? We wonder if there will be a repeat performance in Italy this year....


time to iron up
Speaking of  self-respect we also wonder what happened to  Attila the Hun in the Hungarians? Have they lost that grip...I mean – whip? Or they just handed it to the higher order of knights? Well, I doubt that any decent Templars would ever initiate such gang-of-four  to their company... no matter how holy that shameless crusade might have looked in their own eyes at the time.
It is said that beauty is in the eye the beholder but right now it seems that IDC had little to do with eyes, unless they all have been wide shut which for sure was the case.

From what is known, the HDK (Hungarian Dobermann Klub) is clean organization with some strong unity among members – a prime example of how a  proper club should work and exist. But, sadly, as with most of Euro clubs, it is certainly being harrassed and stepped on hard by fellow Dobermann people  from German DV club and with their usual powertools: HD, ZTP and of course, the IDC.  The question still remains – dear Attilians are you gonna go that way or would you rather grow some balls instead and try to (re)gain respect that you evidently lost in late Summer of 2011.?  

What happened to you all? To just stand by while those wolves tear up your hard work and kill the sheep. Are you all lacking any spirit of your proud ancestors, to be puppets of the Goths? And even to be bullied by that Italian and Afrikaan and even Belgian barbarians? 

where are you?

But we certainly know one such Hun who benefits.. all 9 dogs placing and winning in class, even best breeder. Wonder what he did to be in such good terms with the new masters? Perhaps he forgets his real success is based on that other Hungarian breeder's work. Is he happy then to get scraps from the IDC table, by turning his back on his own peoples?...come to that, there is still an issue of the other Hungarian breeder whom we are quite ambivalent about...that is whether she is instrument made in Italy or Germany?

No, not the blond one, the other one - boobs stared at by Becht boy :)

Don't be fooled by the image above. Crowns might look funny, but their holders are certainly not! From left to right: Mr Szabo Lajos (husband to Mrs Szokol), next to him - Wibli's personal translator, Herr President Wibli, Mr Dohoczki Tamas (the president of HDK) and his wife, our friend Thomas "The Horny" Becht, Erika Szokol (true power and Queen of Hungarian Dobermanns) and Mrs Fekete (wife to the translator) and the owner of Tahi-Reme Zordon.

Now wait a minute! HDK has the President and the Queen? Could this be the case of win-win situation between Reggio Calabria vs. Bavaria? You be the judge because the only obviously stupid thing Erika Szokol did so far was to make her own dog (Tahi-reme Giniti) 2011 IDC winner in veteran class. Just what the Doctor ordered...as we know how many winning results he had given to Del Citone dogs in the past. Could it be because of the defeat she once suffered against  then nice looking but later rather insignificant Maya di Altobello?
Is it possible that vanity can last for years, six of them to be precise. C'mon Mrs Szokol you can do better than that. Look at how much admiration the peak of your breeding has received over years. Wasn't that enough?

Nice rack...and she seems to be developed mind wise as well

Otherwise it is more then clear that Erika Szokol is heavily pushing her protegee of Perlanera kennel, giving him many wins along the way (supporting his judging career lately as well!) and is for some reason prone to her probable politics mentor - Dr Pezzano Machiavelli from the south, although the latter can't be proved 100% but everything so far leads to that conclusion.

Some say she is politically biased judge, while the others claim her great breed expert, but what we see is that she judges IDC a year after year...not that she can actually affect the choice of winning dog (being a woman or non-German/Italic), but she is right there - gliding along with the rest of the crew.

Is is also said that unlike ATM - Austrian Traffic Manager (yes, Inge) she does things smoothly and in her own commonly pleasant way.. hence the expression -  the iron fist in a velvet glove.


We do wonder where the spirit of Attila has gone today.... Will HDK repeat this again if the IDC circus some to town again? Or will they finally grow some real balls and stand up to tyranny.. or are they just as involved in being a Germans colony...  [ can you hear Becht howling Deutschland Uber Alles? ]




47 comments:

  1. What happened in Hungary is a shame in the memory of Attila, if you mentioned him. Shame for HDK, shame for Dohoczki and for Erika.
    A Hungarian , Attila descendent from Romania.

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  2. Sorry insider, but " situation between Reggio Calabria vs. Bavaria" what does that have to do with it?
    In Reggio Calabria(south Italy)live and breed another judge,bad boy Polifrone Attilio he don't judge show in Italy after the Trofeo Caliandro 2011 when win Maxim di Altobello in disagreement whit Pezzano.

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  3. Polifrone Attilio, has quality taste in clothes. knows the women gave him a kick in the ass with the Russian who lived in the past. (too dirty for him). but has to learn the Doberman breed. I generally like him.

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  4. You do not know what the Hungarian women in my life I kept a few, very good in bed. big tits like pillows. Why would a man found them. left alone are my favorites.

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  5. Florin we all know that your choice is with young
    boys so why are you talking about women, this is the bond you have with Wibby.

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  6. You are ridiculous. Are you paid , have interest in next IDC ? Or why are you make this comments in order to make this blog a hilarious and stupid writings blog ?! I do not understand. Florin, if you love dobermanns and they are not only a "I can , because I have money", you will stop this kind of writings on this blog. You are not interesting nor more clever doing this. It is the first time from many many years that somebody is writing all our sadness, dissapoitments on this blog. You say do, do not be anonymous ? You was in Romania, some were in Hu some in German Democratic Republic. To feel that's time to asume a great change by saying who you are , maybe it is not too far.

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  7. Maybe Florin and Wibli share a common interest in the younger kind, but Wibli's involvement is coming more from a business angle than simple entertainment.

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  8. Wibby has the DV/IDC and a stable full of
    rent boys.

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  9. Florin almost rhymes with moron.

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  10. you are so jealous and so stupid. Speaking I have 4 kids with 4 different women. in 4 continents. pay and are a good father for my children. I know you idiots. and fun. you do not know how to keep a leash in hand, and talk about the Doberman breed. be serious people. I'm sorry for you but you are too stupid and too cowardly to this world.

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  11. beggars. go to IDC, to them, kissing in the ass on the judge. come here on this blog and you slaves, talk back to those who will give titles because they lick ass. you have no backbone, they suck dick. you are nothing but dirty rats. who will deserve their fate, are born slaves, and you will die slaves. I'm sorry for you.

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  12. @ Florin! And you are proud of the fact that you have 4 kids from 4 different women? Does this make you a MAN? What an idiot. No one cares where or who you do or dont fornicate with. You may have the odd valid point every now and again - but your obession with vulgarity is now no longer tolerable. Rather leave this blogg to the people that are really concerned with the doing and screwings of the dobermann breed and not your personal filth

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  13. From Facebook: Florin wrights about himself: "I do not like surprises. I have two qualities, fight and fuck like a sewing machine. and if someone upsets me I will do everything until you ruin it. do not know the joke".

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  14. anonymous. I like it. You follow the close I do know. you are jealous. I do not think many people like me. I was lucky in life. anonymous you are a dirty rat who is afraid of his shadow. I know you're hungry, go to slave labor. when you have money all women fall into his arms. You do only jacking off ..... but please continue to entertain me ..

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  15. Florin, a Bentley or Ferrari do not proove anything, only in the minds of 0 IQ.To proove something in dobermannn world you need much more. By the way, can you keep a leash of a dobermann ? You proved nothing. So go and do not destroy a hope that something started and let us with our sadness. By the way I have a Lamborghini, and some other cars.... do not like Bentley or Ferrari.

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  16. Florin NiculescuMarch 1, 2012 at 2:37 AM

    I promise I will not write here. I think your cause is dignity of appreciation, and wish you success.

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  17. Florin.
    I am going to introduce you to the wonderful
    world of pain. Better to leave now.

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  18. I hope HDK and any other clubs never allow the repeat of what happened at IDC. Those NAZIS went too far and next time, there will be severe consequences and hurt on them.
    Erika is maybe the only good person left in IDC judges, and she will make the best leader for all. Too bad the old bastard has not died yet, and that younger pervert is taking over. Becht is a big disgrace to all Dobermann world, even he was made fun in Indonesia as a stupid untalented big mouth. Daube is the same, untalented man, but at least not as racist and arrogant as bastard Becht. Pezzano is smartest, but kisses their ass. Let us see what he does and how he kisses them at IDC this year.

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  19. I don't think Erika is that "pink" and innocent women she tries to convince us she is. Just look how she pushes Perlanera in front ... and she also judges her own dogs and gives them placements, titles. I looked her judgeing at past IDC's and I do not think she knows the breed that well. And her breeding success? Too many litters over the years mateing again and again to winner males - of course some puppies will look like similar to their father, but this is not breeding to me...

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  20. I agree with your statement. Her breedings are all with top males and many Citone dogs. I see safe bet and sure wins in her corner. Not many males are from not well known kennels.
    Again dogs who are lesser are winning big titles because of who bred them and the kennel name attached.
    Very shameful that a judge can judge there own dogs and place them, To me that is still very strange. Many many changes are needed and fast !!!

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  21. You two anonymous 0s: stop with those anal statement agreements already! Produce the dogs like she does and only then speak your mind otherwise do fuck off with your statements!

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  22. It is easy to win s..cking. For me s..cking means also mating with political males to have assured victory. To be also between the IDC judges ( only obedient people can be an IDC judge) helps her more. Just please let us with your stupid retard regards like "produce dogs like she does..." If you think we are all jealous on her results, you are stupid and kiss her a..s. Our problem is that she belongs to a corupt system which is seeing us all as monkeys jumping in their shows. Beacause of this ALSO she won many times without having a dog which deserved to be in first 4 in class, not to win. If you are blind or you are Perlanera, I can understand your statement , otherwise not.

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  23. And aso if you will look in Hungarian shows you will see Erika's dogs performing only in shows judged by SOME judges. You never asked why ?

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  24. ...does that too mean that Tamás Dohóczki, the president of HDK and judge with no more than 3 or 4 shows under his belt was just taken to München to give Orson Nemesis BOB today? Did they tell him to give this dog CACIB or it was natural thing to do when being invited to judge such prestige show? Or do you claim Orson such good dog that he deserved everything he got in the last year or so? So sad is cynology of almost 100-million-people-country with just one dog to win by default and yet he has more to win, just wait and see. It would be no wonder to find out that Mr Dohóczki also mated to some of German dogs, namely Nemesis. Political mating is much worse that political win because it actually leaves traces in the breed.

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  25. Political matings are done for political wins at IDC. If you mate with X ( political stud) ,you may expect to win . All games are made by same judges. 100 milion Germany you may just look because you've done nothing in the past to not happen now what's happening in shows

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  26. "It is easy to win s..cking. For me s..cking means also mating with political males to have assured victory. To be also between the IDC judges ( only obedient people can be an IDC judge) helps her more. Just please let us with your stupid retard regards like "produce dogs like she does..." If you think we are all jealous on her results, you are stupid and kiss her a..s."

    You idiot. I would rather kiss her tits if it would come to kissing. But, only completely blind retard like you would claim her dogs not being worthy of finals and not to mention - wins. I bet you are one of them salon experts with zero litters and mouth full of shit because of being impotent to make your own breeding. It is easy ti criticize, especially when you have nothing to show in return you sad prick!

    The fact that you are veterinarian does not mean that you have eye for dogs :)

    Next time I see you it won't be so nice, you bold headed impotent fuck!

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  27. Thank You Florin. Please stick to this promises and disaapear

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  28. Mr TRTr...TRRRR
    If you are Perlanera you do not like to kiss tits, if you are Erika ( I doubt , she cannot speak and write in another language then Hungarian) you even more do not like to kiss your own tits (even if she can), but many times I'm in doubt of this,from her pictures reflecting a narcicism. You are a jurk ,and all of so called big breeders which have won in past and will win in future because they are in the political circle of FCI and IDC doesn't mean that WE are their monkeys and sponsors of their results. Do not see us stupids just because you ,Erika , Perlanera, Pezzano, breeder of Nemesis were born on the Earth. I can expect you in any show and mainly at IDC , please shout : I am Erika's fan from dobe-insider. so I can know you and say to you between 4 eyes why you are wrong.
    I am not a vet. But owner of some IPO 1,2,3 dobermanns, Int. champion dogs. Not only mR Kocs from Hungary is against your stupid and idiotic politics of HDK which result was throwing out the serbians. I am not serbian !!!! But as I can see if you lick there is OK you will be a judje invited in important shows like Backa Palanka Serbia.
    Serbian president, mr Igor, you have no shame or honour ?! After the serbian dogs were kicked out from IDC hold in Hu, you are inviting Dohoczki to judge ?!!! You are a shame for the serbian club !

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  29. AGREE 100% WITH THE LAST POST! SO, SO TRUE!!

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  30. Can the moderator please put a block on increasingly bad language coming from some people on this forum? It insults other reader's intelligence and degenerates the purpose and tone of debates, although I realize if the swear words were removed from some people's vocabularies they would not have much left they could say.

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  31. i fully agree with that ! it has nothing to do with censorship but with manners and education.
    whoever has not learned from his parents a decent way of treating other people and who has never learned to talk like a normal human being has in my opinion not the permission to write here.

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  32. von Karpatia new litter

    No wonder Mr Dohóczki was invited to judge his 4th show ever, on CACIB Munich. He already mated to Nemesis dog...therefore the win was concluded before the show. How convenient!!!

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  33. "I am not a vet. But owner of some IPO 1,2,3 dobermanns, Int. champion dogs."

    WHICH DOGS EXACTLY?

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  34. I think you'd like to know my name rather then my dogs names :) It will be the time, be patient

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  35. "AnonymousMar 10, 2012 06:39 AM
    von Karpatia new litter

    No wonder Mr Dohóczki was invited to judge his 4th show ever, on CACIB Munich. He already mated to Nemesis dog...therefore the win was concluded before the show. How convenient!!! "

    If this is true, my statement from 5 March is demonstrated, even my language wasn't very adecquate, sorry if in my angreness I used some bad words, wasn't with intention but sometimes I swear seeing what's happening from some years. It is more end more embarrassing and more and more unacceptable

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  36. @Anonymous Mar 10, 2012 04:27 PM
    I am not so interested in your name as much as I am interested in your credentials. Also, it is not nice to attack real life person in public while hiding behind keyboard. Be a man of integrity and tell us your references.

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  37. Looking at the results of the show Mr Tamas judged in Munich.. there was really not much quality in the field, and I believe Mr Tamas did a good job of judging what was presented before him. Just like in IDC, his selection was of the best in the ring for the day. It is also good example of the poor quality in Germany today, even in DV hometown show. I think the Hungarians just did not expect the way the Germans treated them in IDC, and bullied their way around. The Italian also played the game and never stood up to his masters.

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  38. @Anonymous Mar 10, 2012 04:27 PM
    "I am not so interested in your name as much as I am interested in your credentials. Also, it is not nice to attack real life person in public while hiding behind keyboard. Be a man of integrity and tell us your references."

    I agree 100% with you that is not nice to atack people hiding behind keyboard. But even you who are not attacking anybody just asking things like my dogs name to see my credentials , do not sign your posts. May I ask you why?!!!
    You think I am attacking them ?! Together with some hundreds of owners breeders who are saying at this moment under anonimity : enough is enough ?! We do not want anymore to to shut up and say nothing. Maybe is not the moment to say who we are , but I hope that very soon we can say it without beeing harrassed in shows. At this moment we know that if they will know who we are they will harass us and just to renounce to breed dobermanns because such individs organized in a mafiotic style can do this at this moment , I do not agree.
    So to see my dogs name just to see my credentials is a childish asking. You can believe me or not, you can hate me or not. But do not play children game on this blog, I think we are discussing serious things here which disturbed not me but hundreds from many years. I am not living from selling puppies or presenting dobermanns in shows ; you may think that even so I am between those who are allways unsatisfied : you are wrong. I've been at many IDC shows to see the degradation of judging in favor of political and financial interests of a small number of people : judges.
    From giving a1 place in class to a dog which not deserved that to the fact that judges are judging their own dogs ,or are saying you can attend you not ( see serbian case at IDC Hungary), passed just some years. Where we will arrive ? Why they are not keeping the show just with their dogs or teir fiends dogs ?!
    Because they want our money to make their nice play ON OUR MONEY!

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  39. And also they want us in shows to say : I won against hundreds of dobermanns in IDC Show. But many of us are seen by them just :" filling", filling which has to be there to make a bigger succes their political shit.

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  40. Wtf invite Tamás to judge special show in Szerbia and why?!!!!!!!! He will judge political!!!!!!

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  41. Mr Dohoczki ! You think you are smart or you just think about Dobermann owners , breeders are stupid?O r you do not have any shame because you learned from big profesors like Wiblishauser and Pezzano ?! Giving Orson a BOB in Munich and after that making an advertisment for your puppies from Orson and a bitch of you,what how can we consider you ? Smart, stupid, or you do not care about what people are saying ?!

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  42. How about Dohoczki judging in Serbia ?! How was it ? As expected ?

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  43. He is a lover of long ears dobermanns. I would not show my dog if he is judging. I suppose he has is friends. After a quick look at the catalogue in the morning I was able to tell most of the winners .But he is not so bad as many others,anyway much better than last years judge. . At least he tried do his best which took very long time.

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  44. This is the essence. He always try to do his best. He still have his spine, he did not sold his soul! Can you imagine how hard thing this is in these material years?

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  45. Dohoczki schuld get bill for what he do to Serbian doberman in 2011...

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  46. Yes, he was asked to judge at Serbian club show this year. Good joke

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