Monday, January 16, 2012

Alles über DNA : Die Natürlich Arglist

 TESTS  DNA 

Quote: "I would also give here the communication about the fact that the leaders of DV and IDC will take seriously the complaints and notices that will be made about this argument, we will do researches in this direction and we will move as is right to protect the correctness, the seriousness and the sportive honor."

And…


“The control of DNA recently introduced is another step to reach the conclusion that:
We arrived at the end of tolerance..”



Right. We now have what is called a DNA sampling, conducted by DV and related stormtrooper judges. But what is the exact purpose of such test and why it is AGAIN in the hands of goodWill hunting and his judging minions?

So the DV proposes [ along with their Italian puppy ] that they want to make DNA profiles of dogs.. to establish control and the end of their long lasting ‘tolerance’.. But we ask  if that so, how exactly do you know that the sample belongs to THAT particular dog? Can you be certain that the DNA test which you pay the DV to do, is correctly identified for your dog? Or even when you have already done it.. can you say for certain the results sent to DV is not tampered with?

We have seen what they did to many dogs in IDC Hungary, where they claimed pedigrees were false, wrongly produced, etc. And now when they plan top use DNA for their profiling.. can you trust them? After all.. they don’t use any computers or have any verifiable and accurate databases..

What expertise do the even have for such DNA profiling? Just talk is not enough. We want transparency.. in procedures, results, and most important – to what real reasons?

Certainly it is not for DCM testing.. that we all know is the big grey area of IDC/DV.. National clubs and individuals have already taken those steps, and we applaud them. Greater still, owners have publicly given out results of all tests on their dogs.

So, what is your real agenda here, Mr Wibs?

Lets also consider…The asking price for such service is 55eur for full sample, and even if the dog owner already has one – he is charged 15eur for a DV stamp on it.
Let do a bit of basic math here. Let’s say that over the year a 100 samples are to be taken. Multiply that by 55eur and you have a nice sum of 5500eur . But, why stop there? Why not 1000 samples times 55 Euros, and that’s per year? Or why not doing full forced sampling on complete population, of some hmmm...several thousand dogs per year? Now THAT would be nice, wouldn’t it?  And again - NO RECEIPT!

Now, let’s get back to reality. The fact still remains that contemporary dogs are heavily interleaved as they mate here and there and therefore all genetic helixes are interleaved among each other,  so in order to conduct what they call “The end of tolerance” demands rather severe cut of all strains and therefore total annihilation of the breed...or perhaps “the boys from Brazil” have some advanced cloning technique that we don’t know about?..but that would also demand the creation of whole new gene pool, meaning completely new breed. Is it possible that Herr W has the ambition of making a new breed – Wiblimann? More like a Wobblermann, to those who prefer deep diving backdoor techniques.

Alas, the truth lies somewhere else. Not only that they extract [AGAIN] the money from ambitious owners, but they have also created another perfect blackmailing and monkey business tool so to threaten  everyone who stands in the way. DNA profiling as they want to use it is a means of control. ‘To track pedigrees’ is the excuse. If so.. then why resort to dirty tricks and not work with the breeders, owners, kennels clubs together? I thought we all really cared for our breed future, not personal agendas..

 Take the “Del Nasi case” for example. They (IDC) pushed Italian Don to mutilate this well known kennel by asking ‘thorough DNA analysis’ from all the progeny of the female he accidentally wanted to own…  While at the same time the IDC [and that’s unofficially] forbids every single national club to accept Del Nasi’s entries to the club shows. How convenient, huh?
"An offer you can't refuse"

You can only imagine the number of dog owners that are forced to attend such travesty of testing...and of course the issue of money that is to be spent not only for sampling, but for judge’s arrival [from Italy, yes! And he never travels economy...] and not to mention the overall travelling costs to such rather  preposterous-like event. We are talking thousands and thousands of Euros of damages these people will induce to now unhappy owners...or perhaps they will not because they probably know there is nothing wrong with Del Nasi dogs...but DNA trick comes handy now that they want them out of the show ring.

On the other hand, however, DNA sampling could be clear message to their  “imaginary” “ less honorable breeders”  and it goes like this: we KNOW what you did [ and won ]last summer and we shall not be tolerating that...because we want our own share of power!  

Imagine this – you submit your dog to their DNA profile.. and then what if the results come back as a surprise – false pedigree, banned for life, unusable for breeding etc. What can you do next? Its not like there is an open procedure or open results and transparency. You cannot do anything. Even athletes who test positive can get a B sampling done. The DV will have final say, whether its real result or not.

Sure, we agree if there is falsified pedigree, and monkey business done, such a profiling can be of good use. But we all know the workings and actions of the IDC guys, especially its secretary… Can we be sure this DNA profiling will not be abused by them? Like how they abused ZTP, HD and IDC Shows..
ZTP DNA sampling
You see the trouble is that W and boys simply cannot stand popular breeders because they are clearly suffering from something which can only be explained by a mixture of Pygmalion and “let – the-right-one-in” complex. Piglets, that is...and a starving one. Just one of those do or die situations...or a battle of vanities, if you like..

Let us see what they come up with and how they use it…


You be the Judge.

24 comments:

  1. This post hit the target! DV boss write the letter, and talk of DNA.. but this is the truth! And Pezzano also using it as a weapon! Shameful..

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  2. How many dogs have recieved a DNA polife on the bloodsample they dilivered to be able to participate at the ZTP, and paid for up front ?
    Have there been issued DNA profile on all the litters that have been tested ?

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  3. Totally agree with this post. This is important for all of us. I did not understand what Wiblihauser mean when he mention DNA in letter, now I do.

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    1. you understand that W wants to fuck you with his dick dead. do not understand anything.

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    2. But of course we don't ;)

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    3. Florin all you speak about is Dicks is this because you lack one, It is rather humorous that this is all you have in your lack of the English vocabulary.

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  4. They have been taking some DNA sampling.. but i never see any results anywhere.. or the purpose of it. Something strange is truly going on. What exactly are they trying to 'profile'? And what Pezzano is doing to Del Nasi and other breeders is just plain bullying.

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  5. Different names, same old tricks. For years Wiblishauser is a silent "partner" in the DV magazine, Unser Dobermann.


    Back then the editor of the Unser Dobermann magazine was supposed to be an independent businessman producing the magazine for DV. The "costs" of producing the magazine were surprisingly high but the Great Leader did not mind it the members were paying too high a price for their magazine and also too high a price for advertising in that magazine. This was because he was an unlisted "shareholder" - engaged in skimming money from the production of Unser Dobermann with a little help from his friend the editor also owner.


    Some might call it a conflict of interest but Hansi probably saw it "creative accounting", after all it was keeping him in the lifestyle to which he'd quickly became accustomed. In fact both guys were doing so well they were able to buy each other special treats, like a Mercedes or two, along with other well deserved bonuses. Unfortunately there was an accidental viewing of the DV's financial records around this time which exposed some concerning discrepancies i.e: missing cheques (one of which Wiblishauser later pulled out of a hat, explaining he'd "found" it fallen behind his wall cabinet at home) as well as other unexplained costs and invoices for club unrelated minor personal items - like the occasional Mercedes Benz...little things that DV's mentally retarded (literally) Treasurer wouldn't notice. Once it was publically spoken that the DV books didn't quite balance it became a matter of some urgency that the evidence should disappear and critical voices at DV meetings be gagged. (All of which was accomplished with great efficiency.)


    Heard of Watergate? Well when the DV's Office got broken into, people were curious as to why the only things stolen was DV's finacial records. (Just too arrogant to think of ever being called to account?)


    Just for the record, the break-in at the DV Office was (quite perceptively) dubbed Wibbygate.

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  6. in Italy even worse, AIAD(pezzano) have eat all financial, do not exist public budget, in AIAD don't exist nothing! Only the personal Pezzano's rules. Thi is an opprobrium,what a shame! Shortest way is to go away.

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    1. make me laugh. Pezzano will eat your money. Even believe this lie. . You are silly. things are true about Pezzano but many things are invented. be serious people, Pezzano has enough money. problem you are who you make gifts. and kissed him in the ass.

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    2. @Florin
      You seems to know a lot about many things in doberman world. Mostly regarding taking cocks and ass licking. Could you be the Insider himself, Florin? It seems to me that you are.

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    3. IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT THE MONEY AND BREEDERS AND CLUBS CAPTURED BY THEIR NON-ACCOUNTABLE RULINGS ARE JUST THEIR PRIVATE MILK COWS.

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  7. You should contact blog with information and insider news, so they can also investigate and make public. I think this is right step for all, to expose and shame these people.

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  8. I try to push in contact insider, but is not possible, why?

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    1. Hi.. it works. see the box below - contact me - you can use that.

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  9. Hi, i try to push in "contact me" but the box is closed, don't open nothing, and is not possible write.

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  10. Yes, I must say he knows a lot about happening in Europe and always makes vulgar comments. Maybe he is from slovenian dobermann club. They had sex all the time and all mixed up.

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    1. minor children if you do not have the write and read. I think this blog is for adults. continue to believe that you are underage girls. You are shy and do not want to reveal your identity. Are you afraid that suteti hunting and fucked. make me laugh

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    2. Nevermind the bollocksJanuary 17, 2012 at 4:21 PM

      @Florin
      You see the problem is that you are using the language that I really doubt is being used in your own home and many people do find this kind of vulgarity rather appalling since not everyone enjoys in such logorrhea.

      We all come hear to learn something new and many of us, and I am sure of that, expect civilized behavior in return. Should you feel the need to be a star of the site, why don't you make your own and then you can check the counter, though I really doubt it would hit anything above 2 figures.

      What you are doing here, dear Florian, is an act of immature personality or perhaps of someone living in great frustration, but you should also know that presumably no one here is psychiatrist nor are we obliged to read your filthy sayings, which I am sure would not be so bold had you lived in Europe. It is quite easy to be brave from across the ocean and behind the keyboard while you have nothing to lose indeed...your name included, which really does not mean anything to the people here because you are nothing but a bragging fool, showing off with your wealth on the Facebook. Who cares about your cars and the dogs you so diligently buy from Euro breeders? By the way, one of them has HD-C in reailty.

      I know this comment will not prevent you from molesting everyone with your bad English and nonsense lectures you are trying to pass through, so I am using this opportunity to ask others to ignore you and your dirty language (and appearance) so you should hopefully disappear into the oblivion - the place where you really belong.

      P.S.
      Send my regards to your wife.

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  11. I'm sorry for you girls. you are so afraid to say the name. and want to revolutionize IDC. you are sympathetic. hidden behind anonymity do, accused are not founded.

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  12. SB. Sem ti poslal pozdrave iz moje žene.

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  13. Oh, god damn google translator, hehe. Even in slovenian its very vulgar, hehehe. Translated: I send you greetings out of my wife. OMG...

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  14. DV and IDC is a SHAM! Now "they" want to DNA our dogs - I dont have a problem with IF it is done responsibly and transparently and not controlled by a bunch of egotistical money )monkey( grabbing fraudsters ie DV and IDC. What proof is given by "these individuals" that they are "clean" - how is it that they ONLY trust themselves! Its time to step on the podium and take this Doberman matter up with the FCI and get our breed rules back without the intervention of the DV and IDC - its gone too far already. ZTP? Phaaah!!!!!!!!!! What a joke and fiasco. Wibli, Redtenbacher x 2( the old one and the camera attachment), Becht and Pessano all know about this blog

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  15. I hope they do read this blog and understand how much we have come to the End of Tolerance with them!!! We just wants a proper breed club, for everyone's interest, and fairness. maybe we can do DNA sampling on them to check if they are humans!

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